Tesla is in uncharted territory now that it appears to have shed its aura of invincibility. Punters find themselves in the dark about the stock’s outlook, with Morgan Stanley telling clients the price could just as easily triple to $800 in the coming months as it could drop to $200.
Late last month, Simon Hale landed in hot water with his compliance department at Wellington Altus Private Wealth. Due to the sharp rally in Tesla, his holdings of the EV giant had become too valuable relative to the portfolio managed by the Montreal-based institutional investor, and it needed trimming to diversify risk.
“That’s no problem any more,” Hale glumly told fellow investors during an online discussion last week. The stock, beaten down over the past fortnight, had just plunged a further 15% in one session, solving his quandary without the portfolio manager ever having to lift a finger.
CEO Elon Musk’s attempt to replicate Argentine president Javier Milei by cutting government spending with a chainsaw has sparked a wave of outcry across the United States, as has his emphatic embrace of Germany’s far-rightAfD party.
Musk is now trying to rally his troops’ morale. But the backlash has been so fierce that it’s unclear whether the stock can recover the aura of infallibility it first earned following 2020’s stratospheric rally, when the CEO could swiftly silence doubts with a bold prediction or two.
It’s led to declining sales, violent protests, petty vandalism and even outright arson.
In the process, Tesla is now down 9% from election day, when it initially launched a furious rally to touch an all-time high in mid-December, and a staggering 46% since Trump took office.
Musk’s fans regularly convene on his X platform to share info about all things Tesla, but lately these pep talks sound more like group therapy sessions where small stockholders affirm why they are right to buy more shares at prices where board directors, including chairwoman Robyn Denholm, have already sold a collective $100 million recently.
Hale then dropped the boom on others listening: Jewish investors were pressuring him to sell their Tesla stock.
“They really didn’t like what happened in terms of the salute,” he confided. “I’m hearing this over and over again from wealthy clients, and clients in Europe—that Elon is supporting the AfD.”
‘Tesla shame’ means this time, the slump feels different
In a way, it all feels familiar, as Tesla investors have been here before.
After the Twitter acquisition in October 2022, when fears persisted Musk might cover losses at the social media company by liquidating Tesla stock, the price dropped all the way down to $100 a share.
A second hefty drop occurred just this time last year, after it had become completely clear that Tesla was, in fact, a growth stock that had stopped growing.
Yet each time Musk could calm collective nerves and put a floor under the price.
First he promised he was done selling Tesla stock through 2024 (a pledge he kept), while later he accelerated the timetable for the launch of a new entry level model to meet investor demands (there the jury is still out).
Now, there are so many persisting concerns, not to mention a growing sense of “Tesla shame” among owners, that there’s no easy silver bullet solution.
“While worries around the Tesla brand have been on investor minds for the last three years, this time feels different,” Emmanuel Rosner of Wolfe Research told clients.
Tesla drivers are afraid to leave their cars unattended
Tesla no longer has this nimbus of infallibility it acquired during the pandemic-era craze when everything Musk did was magic.
At the time, he even managed to skilfully skirt the semiconductor crunch that ground large parts of the auto industry to a halt. But now, Musk himself is the source of the crisis.
Just before Hale took the mike to commiserate over the plunge in the stock, Tesla owner and investor Herbert Ong confessed in the same online forum that many of his friends in the Pacific Northwest were now hesitant to be seen in their vehicle.
“Some of them have said ‘I will not choose to drive my Cybertruck downtown Seattle anymore for the time being.’ They’re afraid,” Ong admitted.
The company did not respond to a request from Fortune for comment.
But it’s difficult to see how it can convince new buyers to get behind the wheel of a Tesla so long as current drivers are unwilling to leave their parked car unattended for fear of reprisals.
Tesla shares could be cheap if you zoom out all the way to 2030
Bulls are now at a total loss as to where the stock is headed.
Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas literally told clients in a research note last week that while it could soar to $800 within the next 12 months, it could just as easily sink to $200.
Instead, the best way to think about Tesla is to zoom out. If you look at it on a long enough timeline, it’s cheap, with shares only valued 19 times forecast 2030 earnings, Jonas insisted.
Still, the sell-side analyst needed to give his clients at least some inkling about how it should trade in the meantime, so he covered his bets.
“We expect the key drivers of the stock will continue to include a wide scope of forces ranging from commercial, macro, geopolitical, technological, strategic and management specific,” he wrote. In other words, everything short of the Earth’s gravitational pull could move the price.
Wolfe’s Emmanuel Rosner argued he couldn’t be certain of the direction in the coming weeks either—not because there were far too many factors tugging at the stock, but rather just the opposite: “At this point, the company is in the midst of a catalyst vacuum.”
‘I don’t think it’s a great thing to alienate half the population’
In the meantime, even Musk’s biggest fans are taking some amount of money off the table.
Asset manager Ron Baron continues to believe in the entrepreneur, but he too was forced to sell Tesla last month at the direct behest of his clients.
Now, his firm only has about two-thirds of the stock it originally held, which he bought a decade ago for an average of $11- $12.
“Everyone has to deal with certain clientele,” Ron Baron told CNBC, quickly adding he did not sell any from his own personal holdings.
While he blamed the sales drop on the recent production shutdown, he permitted himself the wish that Musk would be a “little less visible” amid the controversy.
In between praise, he snuck in a message to the CEO: “I don’t think it’s a great thing to alienate half the population.”
Women already make just 84 cents to a man’s dollar. They also face additional earnings losses, should they become mothers, in the form of what’s been called the “child penalty“—with recent findings indicating a loss up to $500,000 over a 30-year career.
Now comes a study asserting that women experience yet another drop in earnings at the end of their child-bearing years, and researchers have dubbed it the “menopause penalty.”
Economists at the University College London, University of Bergen, Stanford University and University of Delaware calculated that women experience a 4.3% reduction in their earnings, on average, in the four years following a menopause diagnosis, with losses rising to 10% by the fourth year.
To come to their conclusions thus far, researchers analyzed population-wide data from Sweden and Norway. It included medical records that identified the date of the first menopause diagnosis of women born between 1961-1968 who had a menopause-related diagnosis between the ages of 45 and 55.
About a third of women in menopause get a formal diagnosis, lead author and UCL professor Gabriella Conti tells Fortune, and focusing the study on those with an actual medical diagnosis rather than within a certain age range was a way to look at something as “visible and recorded” as having a baby (as with the child penalty).
“So it’s not saying that every woman, when she has menopause, has a wage loss of 10%—because many women have menopause and don’t even have severe symptoms,” Conti explains. “So this is looking at the woman who has a severe menopause, in the sense that she has symptoms. It could be perimenopause, postmenopausal bleeding, and various different conditions.” Once the diagnosis is in place, researchers found, is typically when various related conditions are diagnosed, thereby affecting work productivity.
“So, for example, we see that these women are also diagnosed with symptoms related to tiredness, headaches, migraine, feeling acute stress, feeling depressed. And when you have this variety of morbidities, you’re probably not able to work as well as you were working before—you don’t feel as well, and your productivity might not be as high as before,” she says. To find evidence of that, she says, the researchers observed working hours as a reflection of productivity.
The fall in earnings during menopause, they found, was primarily driven by less time working.
And the likelihood of claiming disability insurance benefits increased by 4.8% in the four years following a menopause diagnosis, suggesting that menopause symptoms significantly impact women’s work patterns, the team said.
Although the current findings were limited to the two Scandinavian countries, Conti believes they are translatable. “My sense is that, to the extent that you know the symptoms are the same across different countries, and that the biology is the same, then the extent of the penalty is likely to depend on the context—the healthcare context, whether you have good access to care, whether you have treatment, and the workplace context,” she says. Their research shows, she explains, that a workplace’s attitudes toward menopause plays a big role in these outcomes.
“If you are able to accommodate women [in menopause], and to create a supportive workplace, then it can also make a big difference,” she says, pointing, as an example, to a new UK certification for menopause-friendly workplaces—which does count one U.S. company, CVS, among those certified.
It’s why, as a result of their lost-wage findings, the researchers are calling for increased menopause awareness—as well as better support and access to care.
“All women go through the menopause, but each woman’s experience is unique,” Conti said in a news release. “We looked at women with a medical menopause diagnosis, so these women may have experienced more severe symptoms than the general population. Our study shows how the negative impacts of the menopause penalty vary greatly between women.”
Those most affected by the drop in earnings and hours worked were women without a university degree, already making lower incomes.
“Graduate women tend on average to be better informed of menopause symptoms and more aware of their treatment options,” said Conti. “This may mean they are better equipped to adapt and continue working throughout their menopause.”
She added, “Our findings suggest that better information and improved access to menopause-related care are crucial to eliminating the menopause penalty and ensuring that workplaces can better support women during this transition.”
The pessimism was reflected in equity markets: listings in Hong Kong, the traditional channel for Chinese companies looking for foreign capital, had dried up amid regulatory scrutiny. The Hang Seng Index, the city’s benchmark index, had just notched its fourth straight year of losses.
The sentiment today is much different. During Hong Kong’s so-called Mega Event Week—a series of back-to-back conferences capped by the Art Basel fair and the Rugby Sevens tournament—banking and finance executives from Hong Kong, mainland China, Europe, the U.S., and further beyond stressed that they always knew that China and Hong Kong would return.
The Hang Seng Index is up almost 20% for the year so far, compared to a 3% drop in the S&P 500 and a 5.8% drop in Japan’s Nikkei 225. Chinese companies like Alibaba, Xiaomi, and BYD have staged double-digit rallies. Wall Street is upgrading its targets on China shares, citing more positive policy signals from Beijing and the possibility of new innovations after DeepSeek.
“Absolutely it’s investable,” said Jenny Johnson, CEO of Franklin Templeton, on Thursday at the HSBC Global Investment Summit in Hong Kong, referring to the world’s second-largest economy.
The changed narrative is “striking,” Frederic Neumann, chief Asia economist at HSBC, told Fortune on Thursday, during a sideline interview at the U.K. bank’s conference. “There’s much more optimism and interest in China.”
Bonnie Chan Yiting, Chief Executive Officer of Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing Limited, speaks to the media after the Lunar New Year Market Open Celebration at the HKEX in Hong Kong, on February 3, 2025. Today is the first trading day of the Hong Kong stock market after the lunar new year holiday. (Photo by Vernon Yuen/NurPhoto via Getty Images)
Bonnie Chan, CEO of Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing, which operates the city’s stock exchange, crowed about the shift in sentiment at HSBC’s event on Tuesday. “Just a year ago, many international investors consixdered Chinese stocks uninvestable, but their view changed in September, and many of them have started to increase their investments in Hong Kong and China,” she said.
Hong Kong’s stock exchange is now attracting blockbuster IPOs from Chinese firms. This week, Tesla supplier CATL revealed it received official approval to raise $5 billion through an IPO in the Chinese city. It will be the city’s largest listing since 2021.
The DeepSeek shock
China’s stock rally arguably began with the release of DeepSeek’s cheap, powerful and efficient AI model in late January, which erased around a trillion dollars in value from U.S. tech stocks—and added about the same amount in Chinese tech stocks.
“DeepSeek was a shot in the arm for those looking to see confidence,” Kevin Sneader, Goldman Sachs’ president of Asia-Pacific ex-Japan, said at the Milken Global Investor Symposium on Monday.
Kevin Sneader, president of Asia Pacific Ex-Japan APEJ and member of the management committee of Goldman Sachs, speaks at a panel discussion themed on “Pursuing Monetary and Financial Stability in the Unstable World” during the Boao Forum for Asia BFA Annual Conference 2025 in Boao, south China’s Hainan Province, March 27, 2025. (Photo by Yang Guanyu/Xinhua via Getty Images)
Soon after investors cottoned on to DeepSeek’s potential, the startup’s founder Liang Wenfeng got a seat at a symposium with President Xi Jinping, alongside other leading tech executives like Tencent founder Pony Ma and Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei. Sneader on Monday said the “handshake” meeting was a clear signal Beijing was ready to embrace the private sector. “Confidence does feel like it’s returned,” he said.
After DeepSeek, international investors remembered China’s tech sector has the capacity to innovate, noted Yimei Li, CEO of China Asset Management.
International investors, including in the U.S., are now paying closer attention to China’s tech sector, said Clara Chan, CEO of the Hong Kong Investment Corporation, on Tuesday. She added many now want to use Hong Kong as a launchpad for this investment, working with domestic institutions.
Is China finally turning a corner on consumption?
Less certain is whether Beijing is prepared to do more to boost the rest of the economy.
Since September, officials have promised more stimulus to encourage domestic consumption, which has flagged since the end of the COVID pandemic. Officials again reiterated their drive to bolster consumption after the “Two Sessions” last month.
Still, there’s a lot of ground to cover. Economist Keyu Jin, at Milken’s event on Monday, pointed out that consumption made up just 38% of China’s GDP, “really very low compared to much more advanced economies.” She noted that there’s still “hundreds of millions of people in rural areas” without proper access to health care, education, and social security compared to urban residents.
But financial firms may be taking a longer-term view of things. “It’s really hard to bet against any country that has 1.4 billion people,” Ali Dibadj, Janus Henderson Investors CEO, said at HSBC’s conference on Thursday. “[China] has an enormously successful history, lots of innovation, lots of motivation and, importantly, lots of incentives being created by the government.”
HSBC’s Neumann told Fortune that while “nobody expects a miracle from China this year,” there’s a perception of a “gradual” shift in Beijing’s approach to consumption. Investors believe “there’s a structural shift happening in China, which might take several years—but there’s certainly something happening.”
Not everyone is convinced, however. Former Morgan Stanley Asia chairman Stephen Roach dismissed Beijing’s rhetoric as “more slogans than substantive actions” in an interview with Bloomberg on Thursday.
What about the U.S.?
Optimism about markets like China and Europe is matched by pessimism in the U.S. Tariff fears, inflation, and weak consumer sentiment have dragged down American equity markets this year.
“The single biggest risk factor in most people’s portfolios is U.S. tech,” Aaron Costello, head of Asia for Cambridge Associates, said at Milken’s conference on Monday. Shares in the “Magnificent Seven” are in the red for the year so far; Nvidia is down by more than 20%, while Tesla is down by over 30%.
The Trump administration, too, is hitting sentiment with its back-and-forth on tariffs. On Monday, the U.S. President suggested tariffs might not be as strong as feared. A few days later, he ended that budding optimism by slapping a new 25% tax on car imports, and another 25% tariff on any country that imports oil from Venezuela.
Investors are now waiting for April 2, when the Trump administration will unveil a whole set of new tariffs on a country-by-country basis.
“Globalization as we knew it may have now run its course,” HSBC chairman Mark Tucker said Tuesday as he opened his bank’s Hong Kong conference. “What used to be sustainable no longer is.”